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Today finally sending from cacert.org addresses worked again, but it was not possible to send e-mails to cacert.org-lists. See the following mailer daemon message:
(for better understading: xxx@cacert.org is the owner of this list.)
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This is the mail system at host email.cacert.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
<cacert-committee-archive@lists.cacert.org>: host 10.0.10.2[10.0.10.2] said:
554 5.7.1 <xxx@cacert.org>: Sender address rejected: If you realy own
this account you should be sending though the authenticated gateway
http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/CommunityEmail (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Reporting-MTA: dns; email.cacert.org
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 776E02121A
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; xxx@cacert.org
Arrival-Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 09:11:22 +0200 (CEST)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; cacert-committee-archive@lists.cacert.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;cacert-committee-archive@lists.cacert.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; 10.0.10.2
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <xxx@cacert.org>: Sender address rejected:
If you realy own this account you should be sending though the
authenticated gateway http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/CommunityEmail |
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it works again. |
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sending to lists.cacert.org addresses does still not work from an e-mail client. From the web form it does. |
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I can confirm this behavior.
My guess is that CAcerts SPF record "v=spf1 a mx a:emailout.cacert.org a:secure.cacert.org a:www1.cacert.org a:ping.cacert.org ip4:213.154.225.230 ip6:2001:7b8:616:162:1::10 ip6:2001:7b8:616:28:50::11 -all" does not include the internal (IP) address of email.cacert.org, probably something like 10.0.10.xxx |
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It is now three month since note https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1588#c6360 and we can still not send e-mails from an cacert-e-mail-adress to a cacert mailing list. Every mail I answer e.g. o the support list goes to the sender, but the copy to the list, I have to copy paste to the sympa server and send it there a second time. This is just waist of time. This way, we will never find more people to give a hand. |
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The error is:
"Sender address rejected: If you realy own this
account you should be sending though the authenticated gateway
http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/CommunityEmail (in reply to RCPT TO command)"
For all details see the complete mail from the mailer daemon:
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Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON>
Delivered-To: eruedin@cacert.org
Received: by email.cacert.org (Postfix)
id CA37623B22; Sun, 23 Aug 2026 15:41:34 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 15:41:34 +0200 (CEST)
From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@email.cacert.org>
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
To: eruedin@cacert.org
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="5C12323B20.1787492494/email.cacert.org"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-Id: <20260823134134.CA37623B22@email.cacert.org>
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--5C12323B20.1787492494/email.cacert.org
Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
This is the mail system at host email.cacert.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
<cacert-support@lists.cacert.org>: host 10.0.10.2[10.0.10.2] said: 554 5.7.1
<eruedin@cacert.org>: Sender address rejected: If you realy own this
account you should be sending though the authenticated gateway
http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/CommunityEmail (in reply to RCPT TO command)
--5C12323B20.1787492494/email.cacert.org
Content-Description: Delivery report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; email.cacert.org
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 5C12323B20
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; eruedin@cacert.org
Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 15:41:29 +0200 (CEST)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; cacert-support@lists.cacert.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;cacert-support@lists.cacert.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; 10.0.10.2
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <eruedin@cacert.org>: Sender address rejected:
If you realy own this account you should be sending though the
authenticated gateway http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/CommunityEmail
--5C12323B20.1787492494/email.cacert.org
Content-Description: Undelivered Message
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Return-Path: <eruedin@cacert.org>
Received: from [192.168.178.23] (46-253-191-217.dynamic.monzoon.net [46.253.191.217])
(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256)
(No client certificate requested)
(Authenticated sender: eruedin)
by email.cacert.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C12323B20;
Sun, 23 Aug 2026 15:41:29 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <806c7e03-d6e2-4422-b640-7154b020782a@cacert.org>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 15:41:33 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Subject: Re: [website form email]: URGENT: Renewal Failure
To: cacert-support@lists.cacert.org, damf1@srcf.net
References: <20260822213316.3E7052F226A9@www.cacert.org>
Content-Language: de-CH
From: "Etienne Ruedin (CAcert Inc.)" <eruedin@cacert.org>
In-Reply-To: <20260822213316.3E7052F226A9@www.cacert.org>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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